Friday, January 31, 2025

Group ‘linked to DeepSeek’ DID steal OpenAI data, Microsoft fears, as concerns grow that the communist tech has ripped off US intellectual property

Tech giants Microsoft and OpenAI are reportedly investigating whether data output from the ChatGPT maker’s technology was secretly taken by a group linked to Chinese artificial intelligence startup DeepSeek.

Microsoft’s security researchers observed individuals they believed to be connected to DeepSeek exfiltrating a large amount of data using the OpenAI’s application programming interface (API), according to a report by Bloomberg News.

OpenAI’s API is the main way that software developers and business customers access its services, buying a licence in order to integrate its models into their own applications.

US firm Microsoft, the largest investor for OpenAI, notified the company of suspicious activity in the autumn, according to the Bloomberg report.

Low-cost Chinese AI startup DeepSeek, an alternative to US rivals, sparked a tech stock selloff on Monday as its free AI assistant overtook OpenAI’s ChatGPT on Apple’s App Store in the US.

DeepSeek’s meteoric rise has raised questions about how a start-up could have become a market leader so rapidly, apparently side-stepping a US ban on Chinese firms using the most advanced microchips available to domestic tech companies.

The Chinese firm has rocked the AI sector by stating that it cost just $6 million to build an AI model using less-advanced chips – a claim some experts have suggested may be too good to be true.

David Sacks, the White House‘s AI and crypto czar, told Fox News in an interview earlier on Tuesday that it was ‘possible’ that DeepSeek stole intellectual property from the US.

Pictured is Liang Wenfeng, the founder of Chinese AI startup DeepSeek, speaking at the symposium presided by Chinese Premier Li Qiang on January 20, 2025

David Sacks, Donald Trump's 'AI and Crypto Czar', speaks to the President as he signs a series of executive orders in the Oval Office of the White House on January 23, 2025

‘There’s substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI’s models,’ Sacks said.

Asked for comment on the Bloomberg report, an OpenAI spokesperson echoed Sacks in a statement that noted China-based companies and others were constantly attempting to replicate the models of leading US AI companies, without specifically naming DeepSeek or any other company.

‘We engage in counter-measures to protect our IP, including a careful process for which frontier capabilities to include in released models, and believe as we go forward that it is critically important that we are working closely with the US government to best protect the most capable models from efforts by adversaries and competitors to take US technology.’

Microsoft declined to comment, while DeepSeek could not be immediately reached for a comment.

It comes as Chinese tech giant Alibaba today announced the release of a new version of its Qwen 2.5 AI model that it claimed surpassed the highly-acclaimed DeepSeek-V3.

The unusual timing of the release, on the first day of the Lunar New Year when most Chinese people are off work, points to the pressure Chinese AI startup DeepSeek’s rise in the past three weeks has placed on not just overseas rivals, but also its domestic competition.

Chinese state media has celebrated DeepSeek’s work for showing that even with limited computing power, firms can ‘create miracles’. 

DeepSeek has said its recent models were built with Nvidia’s lower-performing H800 chips, which are not banned in China, sending a message that the fanciest hardware might not be needed for cutting-edge AI research. 

Chinese tech giant Alibaba today announced the release of a new version of its Qwen 2.5 AI model

Experts have now suggested that the company could have had Beijing’s help in sourcing powerful chips as part of the Chinese government’s drive to get ahead in its battle with the West for technological supremacy and harvest information on its enemies. 

Luke de Pulford, director of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China, told MailOnline that the UK and US governments should be worried about the power that could give DeepSeek – and by extension the Chinese government.

He said that under the Chinese Communist Party’s doctrine of Military-Civil Fusion ‘the line between the private sector and state is increasingly blurred.’ 

‘As with TikTok, DeepSeek has the ability to collect masses of sensitive data, all of which is vulnerable to state interference,’ he said.

David Sacks said that it was 'possible' that DeepSeek stole intellectual property from the US

‘Aside from violations of data protection, this hands the Communist Party a strategic advantage – they can crunch and analyse intimate information on hundreds of millions of foreign nationals.’

DeepSeek this week became the most downloaded free app in the US – with its skyrocketing popularity seeing the value of its rival AI firms tumble and sending shockwaves through Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

Shadow Security Minister Alicia Kearns said of DeepSeek: ‘There’s no such thing as low cost, because the security and privacy costs are extremely high – let alone the perverted prism through which many answers will be presented.

‘AI may be the space race of our time, but this time every member of our community has a role to play.

‘If your data is going into the hands of the Chinese Communist Party, you’re helping them on this race as they suck every bit of detail about you that they can – even your keystrokes.’

When asked about Taiwan, DeepSeek states that the island is part of China and adds that 'compatriots on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are connected by blood'

China hawks have labelled it ‘Communist AI’, with a major concern among Western officials being that the chatbot feeds users Chinese propaganda and disinformation.

The chatbot says it is ‘programmed’ to provide answers that toe the Chinese government line, for example refusing to answer questions about Beijing’s crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and declaring that ‘Taiwan is an inalienable part of China’.

Why are American companies worried about DeepSeek?

What is DeepSeek? 

DeepSeek in a Chinese start-up that develops open-source AI models, meaning the developer community can inspect and improve the software.

The company unveiled its first AI model in November 2023, followed by DeepSeek-V2 in May 2024 and DeepSeek-V3 in December 2024.

Then, on January 20, 2025, DeepSeek-R1 was released, which topped the Apple Store’s most popular free apps list as of January 27.

DeepSeek’s latest AI Assistant is said to perform comparably with OpenAI’s most recent ChatGPT release.

However, the cost of training and developing DeepSeek’s models appears to be only a fraction of what is required for its Western rivals.

DeepSeek says V3 used Nvidia’s H800 chips for training, which are not top-of-the-line – and only 2000 of them, compared with the tens of thousands that are normally used for training models of a similar size.

This is said to have cost just $6million, compared to $100million+ that US firms have funnelled into their models.

The app also distinguishes itself from other chatbots by articulating its reasoning before delivering a response to a prompt.

Who founded DeepSeek and why?

Deepseek was founded in May 2023 by Liang Wenfeng, the founder and chief of AI-driven quantitative hedge-fund High-Flyer.

DeepSeek operates independently, but is solely funded by High-Flyer.

This funding models allows DeepSeek to pursue ambitious projects without the pressure of external investors, meaning they can more easily invest in long-term research and development.

The team comprises of mostly young, talented graduates from top Chinese universities, fostering a culture of innovation and deep understanding of the Chinese language and culture.

Their hiring practices prioritise technical abilities over traditional work experience, resulting in a workforce that is highly skilled and bring new perspectives on AI.

Why is DeepSeek such a threat to US big tech firms?  

The emergence of DeepSeek’s viable, cheaper AI alternative may mark a turning point in the level of spending and investment needed for AI.

Marc Andreessen, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist, said that DeepSeek’s R1 model was AI’s ‘Sputnik moment’, referencing the former Soviet Union’s launch of a satellite that marked the start of the space race in the late 1950s.

In a separate post, he said: ‘Deepseek R1 is one of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I´ve ever seen – and as open source, a profound gift to the world.’

DeepSeek has upended widely held views about US primary in AI and the effectiveness of Washington’s export controls targeting China’s advanced chip and AI capabilities.

Firms like OpenAI, Meta, Google, Apple, and Microsoft will now have to face up to this new competitor.

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